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    The bible is a book of fables...This is evidence (I'll be nice and not say proof, as to not upset anyone)

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    You know, all of those things have been dealt with plenty of times by several people. So I am not going to waste my time arguing about it with you, but instead you could start being honest with yourself and stop using old defeated anti-bible arguments.
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    Religion is a plague that continues to ignore science. People simply pray and then ask someone to pass the ammunition. You have had your say with your book of fables so let us here in this forum have our say with science and fact.
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    That is made obvious by the fact that there are 38,000 Christian religions, each of which can show you in the Bible why they, alone, are the one true religion. The Bible is so convoluted and so full of, not only rules to live by, but also the opinions of the writer of a particular book that you can read into it anything you like and, thus, it can be used to support any abhorrent behavior you might enjoy defending with it. Want to kill your kids? The Bible says you're supposed to if they don't respect you. Want to have more than one wife? It's in there. Want to own slaves? God has no problem with that. Want to do something not specifically supported? Ann Coulter teaches us how to do that. Want to write a book slamming all those who hold political beliefs different than yours, unfairly demonizing anyone who holds a dissenting opinion? Simply relate it to Jesus throwing the money changers out of the temple and you're golden. Yeah, Jesus physically, face to face removed people from the temple who were not there to worship, but to scam those who were. That's exactly the same as writing a book which will only ever be read by those who agree with you slamming those who don't, right? Close enough, apparently.

    The truth is that you can use scripture to back just about anything you want to do. You can also use scripture to show it's wrong. It is filled with so many contradictory rules that you simply MUST pick and choose which parts to follow and which parts not to. Are you supposed to kill witches or not murder? Are you supposed to take an eye for an eye or turn the other cheek? Add to that the spontaneous definition changes for things like "adultery" and you've got yourself a free pass. Most Christians would say having multiple wives is adultery. The Old Testament would disagree. And is it okay to eat Pork? Leviticus says no, Romans says yes. Did God change his mind? What is fact and what is opinion? Was Paul right that Jesus came for the purpose of "...abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations." as it says in Ephisians? Jesus didn't think so when he said, "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

    In that last example we can show in the Old Testament how eating pork is bad, refute that with something in the New Testament and then refute THAT with something ELSE in the New Testament. I could make the argument and back it with the Bible that the apostle Paul is roasting in Hell right now.

    Of course no religious person would agree with a word of that. Why? Quite simple. For your religion to work you have to interpret the Bible. That means you simply believe, regardless of any evidence to the contrary, that it supports your beliefs 100%. If anything in there does not support your beliefs then you are interpreting it wrong. By "interpreting" the Bible you get to change the meaning until you MAKE it support your beliefs. In that way it can never contradict itself because any time it does the meaning simply gets re-interpreted to not contradict itself.

    As a former seriously religious person I can tell you that you will never convince a closed minded Christian with ANY of this, though. When you show them the folly of their ways, they KNOW you're wrong. They don't know how, but they know you ARE. They will put a lot of time and effort into finding a way to twist things to show that you are wrong. If they fail they will turn to someone else to explain to them how you're wrong. Failing an answer being handed to them they will simply stop thinking about it and never mention it again, writing you off as a particularly evil denizen of Hell for trying to trick them. In all their research they will simply ignore any and all evidence which supports what you have told them. They will skim over it and not even allow it to register in their heads. They will see ONLY that which supports what they desperately want to continue believing. We see this most often in the dreaded "quote mining" they all do. It's not so much that they purposely twist what was said. They have literally had to rewire their brains to only see that which supports their beliefs to keep believing it. Although subconsciously they know better, on a fully conscious level they truly believe that they have found a damning evidence against you by showing that, if you read every other word, you said you agreed with them. In that case they literally only SEE every other word. I can tell you from experience this takes some real mental gymnastics to do and subconsciously you know you're doing it, but you purposely suppress that nagging voice telling you how stupid you are because if you listen to it you'll make Jesus cry and he'll light you on fire.
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