Disbelief in the Creator is just Belief in the Death.

tyme:

I am not blinded. I have a certain set of requirements for evidence to be called evidence and not propiganda and thusly a waist of my time of reviewal. You spit propiganda. If any religion had anything valid and testable they would submit it as such

We do not believe in a future existence of ourselves and find those who do to be weak and demented. I am okay with death being the end. You needing a candy coated lie is not my problem..

Few Questions for Atheists:


tyme:

I am not blinded. I have a certain set of requirements for evidence to be called evidence and not propiganda and thusly a waist of my time of reviewal. You spit propiganda. If any religion had anything valid and testable they would submit it as such.

S1:
Your outright rejection of the investigative works of recognized scientists, without reading, investigation and discussion means that you are extremely biased and pass your judgments against belief just out of ignorance.


tyme:

We do not believe in a future existence of ourselves and find those who do to be weak and demented. I am okay with death being the end. You needing a candy coated lie is not my problem.

S2:
You are not telling the truth. If you did not believe in the future, you should not have planned, educated yourself, worked, or even written your this message. Belief in the future is the evidence for belief in the creator of the universe. Alleging disbelief while actually believing is deception or hypocrisy.

tyme:

I am okay with death being the end. You needing a candy coated lie is not my problem.

S3:
This proves that disbelief in the creator means just belief in the death i.e., disbelief in your very own life. In other words, disbelief in the creator means condemning own self to mental death, because you cannot believe in your very own future existence. Therefore, the only reality that the disbeliever can believe in is The Death.

Saeed H H Alyousuf

At points, this seems somewhat random. Almost as though the words were thrown together by the Shakespearian Typewriting Monkeys on a bad day.

"Belief in the future is evidence for belief in the creator of the universe."

Even assuming you meant belief in the future is evidence for a creator, this is still false. Without god, it just means our future is shorter. There's a good case to suggest that the opposite of your argument is true. If you think you're going to live for all eternity, why bother doing anything now? you have all the time (literally). If you think human's are as finite as the lifespan of their brain, the you'd best cram everything in that you want to do asap.

Human belief is a very weak argument for anything. Let's just take Islam and Christians - approx 1.2billion and 2 billion in number. Let's assume everyone of those people is a fervent believer. With all their heart they believe their faith. Even under these simplistic circumstances, either Muslims or Christians are just plain wrong. And that's assuming that the other one is right - which every good atheists knows isn't the case anyway

Your S3 is a preposterous false dichotomy. Childish. Along the lines of if I don't have that ice cream mummy, I'll die. You don't want me to die, so let me have the ice cream. The argument and the conclusion can only be described, in modern parlance, as #fail.

You could also say that Belief in a Creator is to succumb to the Fear of Death.

I find I relate much better to people who have a healthy attitude toward the reality of death, than those who find ways of not confronting it.

Originally Posted by Blondin

We are born, we live and then we die. These are the facts. Whether we like it or not there is no evidence of divine purpose or eternal reward or punishment. This is not to say they can't exist, there's just no credible evidence of such.

Is it really so shocking to you that some people might strive to make the most of their life while they live and leave a worthy legacy when they die? Do you really need to believe in magical sky beings to want to leave the world in as good or better condition than you found it or, at least, to live your life treating others as you want to be treated?

S1:
Do you believe in the future existence of yourself and of the universe, and for what extent of time?

S2:
What is the evidence for the existence of yourself and of the universe, and for what extent of time?

Saeed

Originally Posted by Blondin

You're not making sense. I'm here now, you're here now, the universe is here now. Any of us could die anytime but, as long as we're healthy and don't have any mishaps, there is no reason to suppose tomorrow will be significantly different than today. Beyond that, who can say?

Do you have some evidence that one of us does not exist or some indication of when we will cease to exist?

S:
Your failure to answer the questions:

S1:
Do you believe in the future existence of yourself and of the universe, and for what extent of time?

S2:
What is the evidence for the existence of yourself and of the universe, and for what extent of time?

This means that you cannot believe in your own future existence without the belief in the creator of the universe. Therefore, cannot live the real human life without the belief in the creator of the universe.

Saeed

I think Saeed is picking at words "do not belief in a future existance of ourselves."

Saeed, that statement was referring to an afterlife. After the organism we call mind and body becomes deceased. Not that there is no belief in a future life, given we are still alive. All atheists strive for a better tomorrow, because this is all we have. Some may give up hope from time to time, but we continue to strive.

If this was explained in an earlier discussion with you, then I apologize.

I believe in a future life. A future without god, and without me... eventually I will die, but gods always been dead!